Friday, July 29, 2011

Dark-skinned, light-skinned, who cares?

I've been meaning to write about this a long time ago as I just don't seem to get the whole dark-skinned, light-skinned issue, I have heard so many people in the black community talk about. It still blows my mind that in this day and age many black people make a distinction between dark-skinned and light skinned black people (mainly women). Now I understand where some of this comes from (colonialism, etc.), but what I do not understand is that after all these years, a lot of black people themselves still regard light-skinned women as more attractive than dark-skinned women. I have read this in many articles and blogs, heard it in mainstream media and even personally overheard conversations about it, but coming from within the black community it just makes no sense to me. Wouldn't your own community know that this is non-sense, considering that you yourself have been discriminated for hundreds of years because of your skin-color? How can you make the same mistake as other people and judge someone because of the skin-tone of his/her color? When I see black women I never pay attention to how dark or light they are. A woman can be extremely dark and at the same time extremely attractive, just as she can be of a very light complexion and equally attractive or unattractive. In my mind it makes no sense whatsoever and I would love to hear your opinions about this.

52 comments:

  1. I'm not surprised, don't feel bad. You don't need to try to comprehend nonsense. Every white guy I ever dated didn't get it, I'm so glad they didn't.

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  2. I co-sign with Flaming_star. Black women are black women (or just women) period, not a shade of black.

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  3. The light/dark thing is a mixture of ignorance,negative experiences and society's standard of beauty. I've been told that I was cute for a "dark-skinned girl" or that I was "paper sack brown" by a relative. White people never discussed my color that way. Black is Black and any shade of Black is going to be darker than the average White person.
    It is sad when people from your own ethnic group keep up division like this. I had German/Black friends growing up and none of the other Black girls liked them because they were light-skinned, grey-eyed like their German Mother, they would think they are better. They weren't that way at all, but people think things based on experience and believing stereotypes. It needs to stop

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  4. i'm sure that by now you're very familiar with american media. so, to help you understand the issue of lightskinned vs. darkskinned, just compare it to the blonde vs. brunette issue that white people have among themselves in this country. that makes no sense to me, just like the light/dark issue makes no sense to me in my own community. but i think that this comparison might help you understand the debate a bit more.

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  5. White guy here. I am very attracted to both light-skinned, and dark-skinned black women. Right or wrong, I'd have to give the most slightest of slightest edge to dark-skinned black women for my preference.

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  6. I think we all need to separate light skinned and mixed race - they are totally different issues. America seems to be one of the last places left in the western world, that groups mixed race and black people together under one umbrella. Being from the UK, mixed race is an actual thing, and does not result in not being able to identify yourself racially.

    Now I have clarified that I will only be referring to lighter skinned black people, here's my opinion.

    I think hangups, like skin shade, are passed down from generation to generation by ignorant parents. These ideals have been in the Caribbean and America since the days of slavery, where the darker slaves were made to work the land, and the lighter 'more attractive' ones were house slaves. The hangups people are feeling now are, in my opinion, directly related to the way slaves were separated out by their masters. Instead of fighting the mindset imposed on their ancestors, people have allowed it to become part of their culture and perpetuated the problem within the community.

    Being of mixed descent, I am very aware of the almost rivalry between darker and lighter skinned black women. The fact there is still such tension is partly due to their upbringing, and partly because of the media encouraging this continued division.

    The 'divide and conquer' ploy has always worked throughout history; this is just another example of blacks (and other people of colour) being kept under control - If black people weren't bickering between themselves, I know as a united front, they would be a force to reckon with.

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  7. @ Fran,
    I agree with you. If people of African decent would stop with the I am better than you attitude we all would be better off.

    On the other hand, we are all aware of the fact that house slaves were not always light in complexion. The first slaves were dark Africans. Most lightly those women were raped by the head of the house, male family member or family friend; hence, lighter africans. The lighter african realized he or she was being treated a little better because the "master" was probably their father. Of course, the lighter individual took advantage of the situation. A few "masters" allowed their children to be educated, own land, and get married...very few did this. IMO, this was the beginning of light vs. dark.
    Also, India has the same color or colour issues. It's sad really.

    I love my brown skin, I look younger compared to most other fair skin women my age.

    simply me

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    1. hey not all africans are dark i am from africa (kenya) and some people are lightskinned not because of interracial relationships its genetics

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  8. I like it all but im most attracted to light-medium brown black women. I think that a golden brown is very very pretty on a black girl but I have found that the darker ones are much more likely to be attraced to me and are more open to dating outside their race. I have not had the same luck attracting lighter black chicks but skin tone isnt the first thing I notice and certainly not the most important. The lips and the roundish noses is what I think is really cute about black girls. Erica Hubbard and Essence Atkins are Goddesses.

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  9. To anon. 10:56 pm

    Come On you are a person who perfers lighter bw and that is OK. Please, do not take advantage of darker bw simply because they are more accessible to you. Have a nice day.

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  10. 8:16

    I do not take advantage of darker bw. I simply think lighter-medium black girls are prettier on average but I wont turn away a pretty darker one. Most of the bw that I have met that like white dudes are very dark. When I have attempted to approach the lighter ones, they almost always tell me they only date black men. Anything from a Essence Atkins to a Meagan Good is my preferance but I am not opposed to beautiful dark women.

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    1. Most dark black girls love white men because they hate their black skin. They think in some sick way that mixing will produce that beautiful light skinned girl they've always wanted to be. They offcourse wiill never admit that. I know this all to well because I come from this sick self hatred. Raised in th haitian community where you overwhelmingly see these beautiful black African queens find these nasty fat light skinned or white men to be there gods all because they fed into the lie that white is right. I'm not saying I'm against interracial dating or that light skinned women arent beautiful. I'm light skinned and like to believe I'm beautiful not based on my skin but how God has masterfully place all my features together. I just know behind that that dark ebony queen being with that white man didnt happen or begin from pure blind love. Not saying it may not have turned into love. Untill black is truly considered as beautiful as white will I truely believe that first attraction is not just some sick self dilution cause. Sorry if people are offended.

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    2. Honey, please get over yourself. Why the hate and jealousy over couples you don't know? Are you telling me that you know the thoughts and intentions of every dark skinned woman? Not everyone in a relationship has an agenda. A lot of non-black men are genuinely physically attracted to black women, and adore our beautifully enriched melanin skin, my English love certainly does! You sound very bitter and alone. Regarding reproduction, what makes you think every woman has the desire to even have children? Sounds like you have issues with your own skin and are trying to tear down those that you 'Think' are less attractive than you. As a gorgeous DARK Skinned East African woman, believe me when I say there is no way on earth that would want your 'light' layer of skin. I'm very much happy in my own thank you very much.

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  11. Re-read your comments. I stand by what I wrote.
    CASE CLOSED. Date whoever you want.

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  12. Well I think its nice that you express your feelings and even though we have come a long way from (in terms of racism) Us black folks have to work on ourselves and how we see each other and get our selves together. I came across this blog because i was researching what white men thought of Black women because there is this popular saying that the black women are the least desirable of all the races. I was believing it. the standards of beauty in the in western culture is seriously messed up. lol dont want to start a mini blog here so i am gonna blog it myself in my own blog

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  14. thanks a lot i really enjoyed one of those blogs and i will check the others.

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  15. I am glad you liked them. You can also search their archives. There are other good black women empowerment(BWE) blogs located on their sidebars.

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  16. Being a darker skinned woman I'm well aware of this prejudice within the race. It is for this simple fact that I started dating white men. Black men would not approach me, preferring the "red-bone". I've experienced the most negativity from other black people regarding my skin-tone. It might be cliche, but the "darker the berry the sweeter the juice" definitely applies here!!

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    1. Ignore the 'red bone' brigade! I started dating white men purely because of attraction. Not because of black men or the black community. Most people are suprised to learn that i have never dated or been with a black man. As if black women by birth are destined to only be with black men. Of course there are plenty of attractive black men out there, but physically they do nothing for me. I guess I see them more as brothers, Literally!! For me, the contrast of a handsome man's peachy white skin to my milk chocolate brown tone gives me such pleasure lol! Too much info?! x

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  17. I have a caramel complexion so i'm right in middle and guys never seem to have a problem with it =D

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    1. Of course you wouldn't! You stated why! Some people just come up here to boast about their skin color. I'm a personality specialist and I sense by the choice of your words your intentions! Smh! Sad. Exhibit A:Bunny

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  18. I just heard about this blog while perusing another blog, singleblackmale.org, ironically. For the most part, I think your articles incite meaningful discussion, and as a Black woman, who wouldn't love a blog that praises the ways and features of Black women?

    The light skin/dark skin phenomenon has successfully divided us as a race of people where lighter skinned Black people are thought to be better or more attractive than darker skinned women, even within our own race. It's really quite sad, but it is what it is.

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  19. Hi there! So first I'd like to applaud you for this blog. I've always been into interracial dating & appreciate the fact that white guys do like black girls(:
    Moving on, I am 16 & grew up in a private school that was predominantly white. I recently went to public school & came across a rather irritating conversation at lunch.
    A few black guys were talking about how they would never date dark skin girls because they are "too ugly". Mind you, these guys were blackish than charcoal. Bring a dark skin girl, I found this highly offensive. My parents are both from West Africa & I get my dark skin from my father. When I was younger I used to be ashamed of dark skin. I felt that it wasn't the right shade. Now, I could care less & think that dark skin is extremely beautiful. I have even been told so by different races. I feel that dark skin girls are not present enough in the media, so it's a slight downer.

    Other than that, love your blog!(:

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  20. Thanks for your insight. As a Trinidadian-American woman, I completely agree with all of what you highlighted. It's often embarrassing the level of hate many of the people who share my phenotype spew at each other. Thank goodness this poisonous mindset did not make it to me, due in large part to my parentage. I appreciate where you're coming from & absolutely adore your blog! (saw you on Beyond Black & White)

    Cheers, Demita

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  21. @Deckonti & Demita: Thank you! And yes, I hope at one point the majority of people, no matter what background, will understand that beauty or characteristics of people have nothing to do with how dark or light a person is. There's always going to be some people who's minds are twisted, but it's important that the majority of people gets educated and doesn't think like this.

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  23. 1) It is often a surprise for people to learn that, in reality, there
    is actually No Such Thing As a “Light Skinned Black” person.
    .
    2) Very few people seem to be aware of the fact that the term
    “Light Skinned Black” is really nothing more than a racist
    oxymoron created by Racial Supremacists in an effort to
    forcibly deny those Mixed-Race individuals, who are of
    a Multi-Generational Multiracially-Mixed (MGM-Mixed)
    lineage, the right to fully embrace and to also received
    public support in choosing to acknowledge the truth
    regarding their full ancestral heritage and lineage.
    .
    3) The people who have been slapped with the false label and
    oxymoronic misnomer of “Light Skinned Black” person are simply
    Mixed-Race individuals — who are from families that have been
    CONTINUALLY Mixed-Race THROUGHOUT multiple generations.
    .
    4) Seeing that every other Mixed-Race group is allowed the dignity
    of receiving support in having itself referred to by the term that
    it most prefers – the question becomes “Why should the
    situation be any different for those Mixed-Race
    individuals who are of an Multi-Generational
    Multiracially-Mixed (MGM-Mixed) lineage?”.
    .
    5) If an MGM-Mixed individual would like to be referred to by the
    term ‘Mixed-Race’ (which is what they actually are) rather than by
    that of “Light-Skinned Black“ (a term, which, once again, has the
    racist-origin of being nothing more than an oxymoronic-phrase that
    was both created and coined by Racial Supremacists in an effort to
    try to deny these Mixed-Race people their right to and support in
    publicly acknowledging and also embracing their FULL-Lineage)
    there is no reason that they (like every other group on the planet
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    to choose the term that society uses in referring to them
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  24. ‎.
    Thanks to the racist-'One-Drop Rule' --
    the 'Mixed-Race Face' ("light skin") came
    to symbolize the look of "the new Negro".
    .
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/vieilles_annonces/3207586871/in/photostream/
    (Jet magazine / January 31, 1952)
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    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FGM-Mixed
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    http://www.youtube.com/apgifts
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  25. YES IT IS TRUE I AM A LIGHT SKINNED BLACK WOMEN AND I DATE WHITE MEN AND WHITE MEN PREFER DARK SKINNED BLACK WOMEN THAN LIGHT SKINNED I WAS TOLD HAVE A BETTER ATTITUDE AND PERSONALITY. IT IS TRUE

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    1. I have also been told by some white men that dark skinned black women are more attractive to them. However that is their personal preference and some people like to fetishize skin like some people do breasts or bums. As for someone having a 'better' attitude due to shade that is crap and a touch prejudice. Be happy with who you are - I am dark skinned, love my mahognany skin and coily hair. I hope you also learn to love who you are too and not pay any mind to idiot men.

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  27. Personally I prefer black women to be as dark as possible,the blacker they are the more attracted I am to them and in case you are wondering I am as white as you can get,so it must be an opposites attract thing.

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  28. I don't get it either. It's 2012, and I still avoid many in the community with this idiotic mindset. I can't have an intelligent conversation with someone who thinks like this. I find the lack of reason permeates other areas of their lives. It's too limiting, and a huge downer. Humans are the only creatures who vigorously resist mental evolution! (And I'm not sure what shade I am...Hershey's, I guess)

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  29. I am a sixteen year old brown skin African American. I did not know that so many white guys were attracted to black girls because I go to a predominately white southern high school. I'm attracted to Asians, Hispanic, and white guys.... does anyone have any advice for me?

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    1. You listed almost every racial group here, except for Black. Are you attracted to Black men? If not, I think that might stem from some identity issues that you are suffering from yourself. That's very common when a Black person has not been properly supported or appreciated by the non-Blacks in her community. It creates a vacuum of self-worth and self-identity.

      Just something to start a positive conversation.

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    2. I'm black but not attracted to Black men either; never have been. Do I have some identity issues too? My lack of attraction to Black men doesn't stem from any form of self hate, it's purely due to the fact that I find the opposite to myself attractive: I'm short, I like tall men, I have tightly coiled afro hair, I prefer a guy with straight hair, my skin is a rich dark brown, I'm much more attracted to a peachy white skin tones in a male. For me the contrasts increase my attraction to a specific man. Of course personality matters, but to say attraction isn't important would be a lie. Black men are too familiar too me, I have been raised around them, in a way this whole 'brother, sister' talk is very incestuos and misleading. All this talk of 'our men' and 'our' women is bull crap. Subconciously I suppose I do see black men as brothers, I feel comfortable around them but would never have a romantic relationship with a black man; that would be unfair on the guy, why waste his time knowing full well i'm attracted to something else? Black men and women do not BELONG to each other, we are individuals who may share African heritage, but for most that's where it stops. People like you have no right to judge or label other black women as having 'identity issues' because our personal preferences aren't to your liking. Does it scare you that more and more black women are feeling confident enough to say, this is what I like? Who you share you bed/home or life with does not lessen your colour or ethnic identity. Plus, some of the most colour struck self-hating black people I ever met were in relationships with....other black people!

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    3. @Anonymous Good for you, don't be ashamed of your preferences. It takes many Black women years before they openly admit what type of men they are attracted to. I guess some people find the idea of us not being bare-footed and holding the weight of the black community shocking. We do have attractions, desires and feelings like every other 'race' of female. I think you should just be yourself, be sociable talk to the guys you like, you'd be suprise how many of them will be responsive to you and share an attraction back. I've had white men tell me before that they were so shocked that I smiled at them because they have been led to believe that black women aren't interested and we all want black men only. There is a lot of lies spread to keep black women and white men who are attracted to each other apart. I seriously don't know what the scaremongers are afraid off! To be a black woman dating interracialy today isn't as difficult as say 30 years ago, yeah you'll get the odd idiot making pathetic comments, please don't let them get you down. Focus on the good people who aren't so obsessed with race, those closest to you who love you and value your happiness. You're still young at 16, but there is a wide pool of dating options out there for you, just be yourself and don't lose sleep over negative people that hate to see two human beings, that's right, HUMAN BEINGS together. Take care little one x

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    4. Thank you so much. When I started being open about liking only guys outside my race, I surprisingly had a HUGE support system. I've even had a few guys hint at liking me. Your advice is very useful

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    5. @LiveWire I am actually very proud to be a young black woman and I don't have identity issues as you assumed. Which is the funny thing about assuming, it makes an ass out of u and me.

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  31. Wait, are we seriously going to act as if only Black people have these types of unbalanced perspectives? What about the Indians who prefer people who are "wheatish" in color? What about whites who prefer blonde and blue eyed women, which is as absolutely white as one can be? All of these unfortunate realities are a result of the European imperialism that has spanned many centuries and has poisoned the minds of people of many countries and countless cultures.

    While this blog's intention may have been positive, I think that the writer has a very limited and biased perspective: he or she is looking outward, without looking inward, speaking with a superior "them vs us" attitude. This is why many Black people believe that you can't talk to whites about these sorts of things, and why I don't believe that a white male (American) could ever be emotionally or mentally suitable as a mate for a Black woman. They just don't get it. You will always be treated as if you come from a community with social issues that "just unacceptable," as if Black people are different from all others. Different, and in their perverted minds, inferior.

    Progressive African Americans are well aware of these sorts of social perspectives and attitudes. We are working very aggressively to right the wrongs. We are also striving to improve the impressions that we have of each other and of people of African decent as a whole. However, while we fight to become more unified, we do not need white superiority and condescencion as we do so. Focus instead on the horrible attitudes, biases, and actions of your own people.

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    1. @ LiveWire

      You know. I have never thought about the colorism or particulars of another race in relation to the patterns that play out within the black community regarding skin color in quite that way before, and you make a very great point. But is a "blonde and blue-eyed" preference the same as a light skinned vs a dark skinned preference in the black community which has spanned over 500 years when only the light skinned slave was allowed in the house? I'm not sure these two hold the same weight. While blonde, blue eyed girls may, however unfortunate, be the standard of beauty in this country and sought after, white girls who do not fit into this category are not looked down upon with disgust because of that fact. However, many black women do experience the reverberations of a color-struck nation of a more intense nature.

      Most people (especially from outside the race, particularly white) will not even have or feel the need to engage in a discussion about such things. Perhaps one can never truly step inside the shoes of another but understanding and empathy most certainly cannot happen without speaking about it first. I commend the creator of this blog. I wish more people would ask questions about race. Just because he may not fully get it right now, he did ask a question which means we (the "insiders" of a particular experience) have the rare opportunity to further awareness. Instead of just brushing it off and saying someone will never understand so what's the use anyway, why not help them instead. The world needs more helpers. You should have a little more faith in people, in humanity..

      Also, please check out Tim Wise's books and lectures. He "gets" it more than most black people do. If the creator of the blog is truly interested in furthering his understanding about race he should check this out as well :)
      http://www.mediaed.org/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=137&template=PDGCommTemplates/HTN/Item_Preview.html

      http://www.amazon.com/White-Like-Me-Reflections-Privileged/dp/1593764251/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1352362418&sr=8-2&keywords=tim+wise

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  32. When i was younger i used to get bullied because i didnt look like a "true African" and when i got older i still didnt like my light skin color because i got it in my head i had to be darker to be a proud african women and small indcidents in my life got me to think i didnt belong anywere... så i when i was 13 i made sure to be out in the sun all day and i even went to soliarium and after 3 months i was crushed to see that i havent gotten darker but now at the age of 23 i realise that we are all diffrent and im proud of being a Black women and the mistake we black women do is we should come together and be proud instead of this depressing competition between us. There is acutally a document i think its called "women of color" its about nine goregous black women talking aboute incidents in their life thats scared them for life just because of ignorant people around them see darker skin as a negative thing wich is bulls¤th, and i felt connected to them cause i had almost the same problem but the opposite. So please women of color be rolemodels for others and love one another.
    / M

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  33. Complexion should not matter but us black women are at risk of being erased from the mainstream and being replaced by biracial women. We need to stop acknowledging biracial women as black because we are giving permission for others to replace us with them. They are not black, they are biracial. There is NOTHING wrong with being biracial. I find many biracial women to be beautiful and talented but they do not represent black women. They should be proud and fully represented as their own identity. Biracial male celebs (such as The Rock, Jason Kidd, Tiger Woods) always identify as such, hence biracial women (such as Alicia Keys and Halle Berry) should do the same.

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    1. Interesting point - well noted.
      I once had a white guy tell me off for not seeing a very light skinned and blonde haired woman with mixed features as Black.
      I recognised that she might be mixed but wish that the media stop representing the attractive and likeable Black women as Latinos or Mixed Race or heavily weaved out chocolate sisters - when the Black - African communities in US, Europe and of course Africa are soooooooooooo diverse with a distinct beauty that doesn't need to be misrepresented so often. And when we do get overtly African featured women, they are often portrayed negatively; bitchy, insecure, socially inept or controlling. In the words of my copper brown mum; there are good and bad in every shade and race of people.

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    2. 100% agree with you! No hate but
      Biracial should not represent black beauty because they're not black. I'm tired of seeing biracial or mixed women in black women's role. I don't want a woman who even doesn't look like me to represent myself. You guys may be considered Black IN AMERICA but you're not. Plus, more and more white people start to see the different between Black and biracial/mixed so the "they all see us black " is BS.

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  34. I am soooooooooooooo glad that most white men are not caught up in the colorism BS that black men are in!

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    1. Yes they are or at least can be as much as any black man. Some white men only date blondes or have a thing for brunettes. Some white men will only date biracial or light skinned women while others will only date dark skinned Africans or Asians women.

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  35. .
    There is actually no such thing as a so-called "Light-Skinned
    Black" person ... but rather ... such individuals and groups
    are actually people who are of a 'Multi-Generational
    Multiracially-Mixed' (MGM-Mixed) Lineage that some may
    have been pressured or encouraged to ignore or downplay.
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    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4160
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    People of Mixed-Race lineage should NOT feel pressured to
    'identify' according to any standards other than one's own.
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    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4157
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    The legal -application of the racist-'One-Drop Rule'
    (ODR) was banned in the U.S. way back in 1967.
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    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4162
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    http://www.facebook.com/groups/253286018082418/permalink/253341891410164
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    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4187
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    http://www.facebook.com/groups/253286018082418/permalink/253341281410225
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    Listed below are related Links of 'the facts' of the histories
    of various Mixed-Race populations found within the U.S.:
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    There is no proof that a 'color-based slave hierarchy'
    (or that 'color-based social-networks') ever existed
    as common entities -- within the continental U.S.
    .
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4154
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    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4153
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    It was the 'Rule of Matriliny (ROM) -- [a.k.a. 'The Rule of Partus'
    (ROP)] -- and NOT the racist-'One-Drop Rule' (ODR) -- that was
    used to 'create more enslaved people' on the continental U.S.
    .
    This is because the chattel-slavery system that was
    once found on the antebellum-era, continental U.S.
    was NOT "color-based" (i.e. "racial") -- but rather
    -- it was actually "mother-based" (i.e. 'matrilineal').
    .
    http://www.facebook.com/allpeople.gifts/posts/309460495741441
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    There were many ways (and not solely the sexual assault
    and sexual exploitation of the women-of-color) in which
    'white' lineage entered the familial bloodlines of
    enslaved-people found on the continental U.S.
    .
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4238
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    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4239
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    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4240
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    An 'Ethnic' category is NOT the
    same thing as a "Race" category:

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/4236
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    http://www.facebook.com/allpeople.gifts/posts/300777016632181
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    Other Topics:
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    https://www.facebook.com/allpeople.gifts/posts/279223868853420
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    https://www.facebook.com/allpeople.gifts/posts/164203590359746
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    http://www.facebook.com/notes/%C2%ADallpeople-gifts/the-facts-on-m%C2%ADixed-race/321878451159708
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  36. I am a Londoner whose parents came England in the 50/60s and hail from Jamaican heritage. My best friend is from St Lucia and light skinned. In both our families and many of the W Indians I grew up with, there is a preference for light skinned women (not men so much) over dark. Yet many of our mothers are dark and the reality is that while light skin and long hair is still a preference - not everyone Black person buys into that.
    Plus I have heard from White people that ALL mixed race people are good looking - so I think its a lie to present the idea that its a Black thing.
    If you are someone who values and assesses beauty within a Eurocentric framework, Europeans and Mixed Race features are more likely to appeal. If you tend towards the Afrocentric framework then African features will appeal.
    I think for many of us, its more complicated that skin shade and features. But lets get real about light / dark who cares? Loads of people do, including some people (Black, White or Asian, Male & Female),

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  37. Wow, this post is ancient. It's almost 2014 ahaha.

    Well my brother makes jokes about my skin tone. he says to people that my mum drank bleach when she had me. At first it was funny when everyone also laughed at his wisecrack comment but it got so annoying later. I dated a white guy & people say it's normal because I'm "light-skinned". I just wanna hug those people and say no but people are ignorant with their preconceived notions. Apparently I'm albino too (O_O) (I seriously am not) and that's hurtful. Where I get black people that say I'm not "black enough" , I can't dance because of that or I'm a snob or I just don't understand - it's a proper slap in the face but I've learnt to ignore it now in the almost 2decades of my life & sadly because I tolerate it doesn't mean others will. Humans should rather be eradicated & a new race be sprouted

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